Tales of the M1 GPU (Příběhy M1 GPU)

Asahi Lina se v příspěvku Tales of the M1 GPU (Příběhy M1 GPU) na blogu Asahi Linuxu rozepsala o své práci na ovladači pro Linux pro Apple M1 GPU.

30.11.2022 00:11 | Ladislav Hagara | Zajímavý článek

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[Donald Truth]

V podstate by vsichni GPU vyvojari driveru pro linux meli nasledovat Linu a pomahat s vyvojem jen pro M1/M2. Potrebujeme jednou skvelou a etalonovou implementaci linuxoveho desktopu co pofrci jak blesk, nevybije notas za dve hodiny, umi spat (a probudit se) a bude stabilni, aby se ukazalo ze to jde a linuxovy desktop neni chimera ci vecny bastl. Navic je tu stale backup v podobe dualbootu do macOS.

[sid]

Doteraz to tak nefungovalo? Asi robim cosi zle ale notebook sa uspava, funguje v docku s 2 monitormi aj mimo. Vydrz tiez v pohode aj ked 95% ide cez siet. Doma napajanie a pripojenie na monitor cez usbc. Update firmware funguje cez gnome software. Co take dalej to ma splnat?

[koroptev]

ne nefungovalo

muj stavajici laptop od vyrobce, ktery se u nekterych modelu prsi nejakou oficialni linux podporou napr. momentalne s poslednim lts ubuntem velmi casto zamrzne pri bootu, do doby, nez jsem to preinstaloval z predchozi nelts verze se to nedelo; a tohle je analogicky +- pribeh skoro kazdeho laptopu (u tohoto konkretniho ty predchozi ruzne se objevujici a mizejici veci byly - nefunkcni touchpad protoze nevhodny driver by default - resil boot parametr, nefunkcni wifi po probuzeni - rmmod a modprobe modulu, nefunkcni uspani/probuzeni ve velmi malem procentu pripadu - holt smolik nekdy, nefunkcni ovladani jasu displeje - resil nejakej hack xoken atd. -> coz celkove hodnotim jako velmi funkcni na pomery linuxu na laptopu)

[k3dAR]

za X(Y?) let si nevybavuju zminovane problemy na ThinkPad T42, X220T, X230, T420s, T430s...
pouze na T60p (s dGPU ATI FireGL) byl potreba workaround na neviditelny kurzor po probuzeni (tusim unclutter)

[BFU]

Protoze to GPU na starsim HW bylo mnohem jednodussi.

[k3dAR]

(nej)novejsi mam ThinkCentre M720q s i5-8600T (teda o 5gen novejsi) jako HTPC, uspava a probouzi se nekolikrat za den a take bez problemu

[koroptev]

no ja mam linuxovej laptop a vsechno mi na nem funguje, uspava se to a probouzi v pohode, dyt si precti, co pisu, vsechno funguje, vubec nerozumim tem lidem, co skoncej ve stavu, ze jim neco nejde, ze jim to nejak zamrza nebo neco nefunguje, nechapu, poslednich 10+ let se mi to nestalo nikdy, ze bych v takovym stavu skoncil

[koroptev]

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1417618/mtd-device-must-be-supplied-device-name-is-empty

z letmyho cteni je to bud problem systemd nebo ovladacu grafiky

z komentaru "You are not the only one with system boot problems."

z komentaru "Had this problem (and technically still have it) what I did to boot into my system was get into grub menu > advance options, and choose the previous kernal "5.15.0-25-generic" > works fine, "5.15.0-41-generic" > this is broken for me " je to, co se projevuje i u me

podstatny je, ze do nejaky doby to butovalo bez problemu, ted to nebutuje

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24754286

[koroptev]

jinak dalsi picoviny, co to dela cerstve po instalaci:

1.) po rebootu nejsem na siti, wifi je v procesu pripojovani; dam v default UI vypnout/zapnout wifi a wifi je ihned ok, do te doby minuta bez 2.) pustim chrome, kurzor se zmeni na indikujici spousteni aplikace, ten tvar mu zustava jeste 10s pote, co chrome bezi, zaroven s tim to soupne nejakou novou indikaci spustenych app do horniho pruhu a to je uplne stejne de/synchronizovane s realitou 3.) pustim Ubuntu software, jedna z nekolika velmi malo ikon v default docku po cerstve instalaci, tato aplikace ma nahore presne tri dumbed down polozky, jedna z nich je updates, ktery mi cervenym bodem indikuje, ze asi neco chce, klepnu na a dozvim se, ze Snap Store nabizi update, klepnu na update a UI mi hodi "hlava 22" notifikaci, ze nelze updatovat Snap Store, protoze mam pusteny ubuntu software

mohl bych rict demence vedle demence, ale reknu nedostatek vize, manpower a organizace v realite, ve ktere ten cil, ktery si to klade, mozna neni realizovatelny

[koroptev]

vyborne, takze uz to nezamrza pri bootu ale o neco pozdeji black screen

te se lze vyhnout tim, ze nabootuju do nejakeho ubuntu emergency modu a zde zvolim pokracovat do plneho mnodu

takze je to nejaka sracka zpusobena tim pokusem o grafickej boot kterej se stejne nekona, jako vzdy

neuveritelny, jakej sranec linux i na konci 2022 je

[koroptev]

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/the-dreaded-black-screen-on-boot-ubuntu-22-04-2080ti-515-drivers/219837/11

tohle vypada nadejne, nvidia driver 470

ekvivalent cisteni wc holyma rukama, vyndavani hoven

[koroptev]

takze asi reseni, prezilo to 5 restartu, neumi si to zapomatovat zvolenou uroven podsviceni, necekal bych cokoli jinyho

takze jo, vypnuti waylandu ani gfx bootu nepomahalo, driver 515, 520 problem, 470 funguje, rekl bych klasikcka linuxova experience

jo datum na hlavni liste mi to zobrazuje ve francouzstine (zbytek systemu us tak, jak jsem instaloval) a wifi opet neprezije probuzeni, nutno unloadovat a modbprobovat modul..

[k3dAR]

takze mas problem s (closedsource) ovladacem co dodava Nvidie, asi si zvolil vyrobce GPU kterej nema ovladace moc kvalitni, to neni tak uplne vec Linuxu...
Wifi mas jakou Realtek? Ralink? s Intelackejma sem problemy nemel...
Ubuntu/Gnome ani UbuntuSoftware nepouzivam tak nevim...

[Jendа]

Bohužel zrovna třeba ta intelácká co je populární v průmyslových počítačích nefunguje s některými APčky.

A co se týče GPU, tak pro změnu AMD má na monitoru Dell rozhozené barvy.

Oproti tomu s uspáváním jsem nikdy nikde problém neměl, a to jsem měl notebooky od různých výrobců, včetně entry-level Asusů. I když nedávno tu někdo psal, že není správné že notebook i uspaný žere tak 0.5W, že Windows to umí uspat na mnohem nižší spotřebu.

[koroptev]

lol

ja: linux stoji za hovno

a: neni pravda, linux na nvidii stoji za hovno

b: linux na amd stoji taky za hovno

[AsciiWolf]

Vcelku chabý pokus o trolling.

[troll minion]

Vzheledem na to, ze ho krmis tak trolluje celkem vyzivne a trafil hrebik :-P

[Yy]

a proč teda reaguješ ty křupane?

[Rust]

BTW Asahi Lina pise GPU driver v Rustu.

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v čem jiném by to měla psát? je to driver, javascript se na to fakt nehodí :)

[Nahlodaná anti-Rustistka/Rusistka/Rasistka/...]

Mě z celého článku nejvíce zaujalo, že @asahilina vůbec neměl do poslední chvíle jasno, zdali to bude v C nebo Rustu. Rust byl pro @asahilina nový, takže tohle je pro mě jedna z hrstky vlaštovek, které nebyly natěšené na Rust, ale z&nbps;objektivních důvodů byl Rust nakonec vybrán a dokonce splnil očekávání.

[koroptev]

doba od uvedeni stroje s M1 na trh po vydani neceho alespon trochu funkcniho - pry to doposavad nema gpu akcelearci vykreslovani, cili jakakoli xokenni app je nepouzitelna byt i pro zcela elementarni desktopovy pouziti

doba, za jakou Asahi tym po vydani nove verze MX CPU je schopen tuto zcela podporovat

dve numera, kvuli kterym si rozumny clovek klepe na celo, zjevne je to hobby projekt majici za cil pobavit a slouzit jako profesni promo

[Tim]

Tady jde o to, ze az to bude pro Apple vintage masinka tak si tam muzes dat linuxa. Ten HW je silny a tak to poslouzi jeste i za 10 let kdy tam uz novy macOS nedas. Do te doby to Alysa s Asahi vytunuji jak bombonek :D

[PetebLazar]

To jsem zvědav jaký bude zájem o 8GB M1 modely z druhé ruky se swapováním vyčerpaným uživatelsky nevyměnitelným on-board SSD.

[M1 Max]

Docela slusny, viz macbookarna.

Zdar M1 Max

[Ovoce]

Tak SD karta v čtečce zapojený do adaptéru USB-C na USB-A to jistí. Jestli to z ní umí bootovat

[k3dAR]

Reverzni inzenyrstvi je skola oproti ktere je ta tva pripravka na materskou ale vsimam si casto ze to dost omezencu ne a nechape(s)...

[koroptev]

to je presne neco, co by mel mit Asahi linux na mainpage hned vedle "nefunguje nam zvuk" a "nefunguje nam gpu akcelerace"

a do faq prosim pridat otazku "a k cemu to teda je?"

[koroptev]

jinak - cemus nerozumel na "zjevne je to hobby projekt majici za cil pobavit a slouzit jako profesni promo"

[_]

ukradl jsi mi prezdivku, vis o tom?

[_]

my jsme GNU my prezdivky radi sdilime :D

[_]

Kdyby anonymni prispevek neusel mit vubec prezyvku tak by to bylo jeste lepsi, takhle je to vopruz ze tom porad neco musime vymyslet a psat. Ale aspon je mozne trolit ukradenim prezyvky.

[_]

me vadi ta kradez intelektualniho vlastnictvi, vis kolik prace mi dalo vymyslet koroptev? kdo mi to zaplati? ted musim prezdivku sdilet s blbejma podtrzitkama bez fantazie.

[_]

Tam je jadro pudla - rikas "prace". Troleni ceskeho linuxaka je predevsim zabava! Jsou tak vymasteni, ze vsechno berou vazne a nez zjisti ze si delame prdel tak uz frci skvelej flamewar. Jo sem tam nam to kazi amateri typu hm ale jinak je tady kvalitni troleni povyseno az na umeleckou uroven

[JZD]

Jen si tady trolujte, budete tak dlouho blbnout, až z toho bude jednoho dne druhej Root.cz a budete mít po žížalkách.

[koroptev]

to nebude, na root.cz vychazeji puvodni autorske clanky s nepopiratelnou kvalitou a ne jen prepis nejakejch news a pochybny reklamy na nejakou levotu s ms softwarem

[Ovoce]

my jsme GNU my prezdivky radi sdilime :D

Kdyby byl Linux pivo, distribuoval by se v otevřených sudech, aby se do nich mohl kdykoliv vymočit --- autora si nepamatuju, ale je to už dlouho

[Ovoce]

*kdokoliv kdykoliv vymočit

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