Dotaz: Panasonic sd900 - konvertovanie, zalohovanie videi

[Patrik Uhrak]

Zdravim,

dneska mi prisla kamera Panasonic sd900. Samozrejme, softver dodavany ku kamere je iba pre windows, takze tadialto cesta nevedie. Chcel by som sa spytat, ci ma niekto skusenosti s konvertovanim, zalohovanim videi z kamery na disk vo vysokom rozliseni. Samozrejme, pripojit kameru alebo kartu, skopirovat, ci prehrat je jednoduche. Mna skor zaujima vyber formatu, ktory by bol najviac rozsireny a teda by nebol problem prehravat na nasej LG z usb disku, ci na Samsungu rodicov a podobne. Mozno chcem vela, ale nechce sa mi pre kazde zariadenie daky iny format vyberat a podobne. Skratka, ak ma niekto skusenosti, alebo vie, na co si dat pozor, hocako trivialne by to malo zniet, tak nech mi da vediet prosim.

 

Dakujem vopred.

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Odpovědi

[Patrik Uhrak]

Pridavam info zo vzoroveho video suboru, snad napovie viac ako plane reci :

$ mplayer -identify  -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau -ao alsa -frames 0 -tsprobe 5000000 -nolirc 00012.MTS 
MPlayer SVN-r34245 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team

Playing 00012.MTS.
TS file format detected.
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
VIDEO H264(pid=4113) AUDIO A52(pid=4352) SUB Teletext(pid=4608)  PROGRAM N. 1
ID_VIDEO_ID=4113
ID_AUDIO_ID=4352
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
ID_SUBTITLE_ID=4608
FPS seems to be: 50.000000
Load subtitles in ./
ID_FILENAME=00012.MTS
ID_DEMUXER=mpegts
ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=0x10000005
ID_VIDEO_BITRATE=0
ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=1920
ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=1088
ID_VIDEO_FPS=50.000
ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=0.0000
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=8192
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=0
ID_AUDIO_NCH=0
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
PROGRAM_ID=0 (0x00), PMT_PID: 31(0x1F)
PROGRAM_ID=1 (0x01), PMT_PID: 256(0x100)
SUBSTREAM_ID=113 (0x71)
ID_START_TIME=0.82
ID_LENGTH=0.00
ID_SEEKABLE=1
ID_CHAPTERS=0
==========================================================================
Forced video codec: ffh264vdpau
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264vdpau] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264 (VDPAU))
==========================================================================
ID_VIDEO_CODEC=ffh264vdpau
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 384.0 kbit/25.00% (ratio: 48000->192000)
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=384000
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3)
==========================================================================
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=ffac3
Starting playback...


Exiting... (End of file)
ID_EXIT=EOF

K vyssie uvedenemu vypisu musim poznamenat, ze nutne treba zmenit demuxer mpegts na demuxer lavf, inak sa video nezobrazi a to aj napriek tomu, ze v uvode hlasi TS file detected.

Uz hladam poslednych par dni riesenie, ale zatial viac menej bezuspesne. Teda, zistil som, ze by malo stacit zmenit kontajner na mkv a malo by to ist. Takze som to skusil a vysledok je takyto:

$ ffmpeg -i 00012.MTS -scodec copy -acodec copy -vcodec copy -f matroska test.mkv 
ffmpeg version 0.8.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Nov  5 2011 17:16:34 with gcc 4.6.2
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --extra-cflags='-Wall -g ' --cc='ccache cc' --enable-shared --enable-libmp3lame --enable-gpl --enable-nonfree --enable-libdirac --disable-decoder=libdirac --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --enable-libfaac --enable-libxvid --enable-postproc --enable-x11grab --enable-libgsm --enable-libtheora --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libx264 --enable-libspeex --enable-nonfree --disable-stripping --enable-libschroedinger --disable-encoder=libschroedinger --enable-version3 --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libvpx --enable-librtmp --enable-avfilter --enable-frei0r --enable-libopencv --enable-libfreetype --enable-libvo-aacenc --disable-decoder=amrnb --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libaacplus --libdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --enable-libdc1394 --disable-altivec --disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-vis --shlibdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
  libavutil    51.  9. 1 / 51.  9. 1
  libavcodec   53.  7. 0 / 53.  7. 0
  libavformat  53.  4. 0 / 53.  4. 0
  libavdevice  53.  1. 1 / 53.  1. 1
  libavfilter   2. 23. 0 /  2. 23. 0
  libswscale    2.  0. 0 /  2.  0. 0
  libpostproc  51.  2. 0 / 51.  2. 0
Input #0, mpegts, from '00012.MTS':
  Duration: 00:00:31.69, start: 0.801678, bitrate: 24602 kb/s
  Program 1 
    Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 50 fps, 50 tbr, 90k tbn, 100 tbc
    Stream #0.1[0x1100]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 384 kb/s
    Stream #0.2[0x1200]: Subtitle: pgssub
Output #0, matroska, to 'test.mkv':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : Lavf53.4.0
    Stream #0.0: Video: libx264, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 1k tbn, 50 tbc
    Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, 384 kb/s
    Stream #0.2: Subtitle: [144][0][0][0] / 0x0090
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
  Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
  Stream #0.2 -> #0.2
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
frame= 1584 fps=  0 q=-1.0 Lsize=   90466kB time=00:00:00.00 bitrate=   0.0kbits/s    
video:88958kB audio:1486kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.024228%

Na pc to prehram bezproblemov, ale na tv LG 26LH2000 uz nie, aj ked maju podporu pre mkv. LG26LH2000 ma usb iba pre servisne ucely, ale sa mi to podarilo rozchodit aj na prehravanie multimedialneho obsahu (fotky, hudbu, video) a kedze vyssie uhlopriecky tej istej rady to podporuju vo vychodzom stave, tak si nemyslim, ze by bol prave problem v tv. Ak spustim subor na tv, tak ho nacita, ale obraz sa zasekne na uvodnej snimke bez zvuku tiez, aj ked casomiera videa ide dalej.

Skusam dalej, ale ak by predsa len niekto mal chvilku casu a pozrel, napisal cokolvek, skusenosti ci nazor, ako dalej, tak budem velmi vdacny.

Dakujem.

[MadCatX]

Příliš asi nepomůžu, ale nedávno jsem zkoušel přehrát videa z USB flashky na nějaké nové LG placce (přesný model z hlavy bohužel nevím). Zjistil jsem, že kombinace H264, AAC, MKV funguje v pohodě. Pro zajímavost info o souboru, který rozhodně přehrát šel (beze zvuku, televize neumí OGG)

mediainfo

General
Unique ID                                : 257537569897154234981344989405147674875 (0xC1BFEE8847A2387AB79EAC65338DB8FB)
Complete name                            : F1 GP - Hungaroring 2011.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 963 MiB
Duration                                 : 1h 58mn
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 1 134 Kbps
Movie name                               : Avidemux
Writing application                      : Lavf52.108.0
Writing library                          : Lavf52.108.0
AUTHOR                                   : Avidemux

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 1h 58mn
Bit rate                                 : 1 002 Kbps
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.097
Stream size                              : 835 MiB (87%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 115 r1995 c1e60b9
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=30 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1002 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.30
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : Vorbis
Format settings, Floor                   : 1
Codec ID                                 : A_VORBIS
Duration                                 : 1h 58mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 128 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -40ms
Stream size                              : 109 MiB (11%)
Writing library                          : libVorbis (Schaufenugget) (20101101 (Schaufenugget))
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Writing application                      : AVIDEMUX2

mplayer -identify

libavformat file format detected.
[matroska,webm @ 0xe84560]parser not found for codec vorbis, packets or times may be invalid.
ID_VIDEO_ID=0
[lavf] stream 0: video (h264), -vid 0
ID_AUDIO_ID=0
[lavf] stream 1: audio (vorbis), -aid 0
VIDEO:  [H264]  720x576  0bpp  25.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Clip info:
 title: Avidemux
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME0=title
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE0=Avidemux
 AUTHOR: Avidemux
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME1=AUTHOR
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE1=Avidemux
 ENCODER: Lavf52.108.0
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME2=ENCODER
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE2=Lavf52.108.0
ID_CLIP_INFO_N=3
Load subtitles in ./
ID_FILENAME=F1 GP - Hungaroring 2011.mkv
ID_DEMUXER=lavfpref
ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=H264
ID_VIDEO_BITRATE=0
ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=720
ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=576
ID_VIDEO_FPS=25.000
ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=1.2500
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=22127
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_START_TIME=0.00
ID_LENGTH=7118.52
ID_SEEKABLE=1
ID_CHAPTERS=0
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
ID_VIDEO_CODEC=ffh264

Můžete zkusit vytvořit nějaký zkušební soubor s co nejpodobnějšími parametry a záznamy z kamery pak konvertovat. Není to asi nejlepší řešení, ale dokud nebudou přehrávače dostatečně flexibliní, mnoho s tím asi nenaděláte...

[Patrik Uhrak]

Dakujem za pomoc. Po mnohych upravach rozlisenia a snimkovacej frekvencie a skusania prehratia daneho suboru som zistil nasledovne. LG 26lh2000 a dovolim si tvrdit, ze prinajmensom dana generacia tv je nepouzitelna na prehravania fullhd videi pri 50 snimkoch za sekundu. Ono, ani manual neklame, kde je jasne napisane, ze bud fullhd a 25 snimkov za sekundu alebo 1280x720 pri 50 snimkoch za sekundu. Inak hlasi chybny subor a neprehra ho.

Skusal som aj nizsie rozlisenia a pri 50 snimkoch za sekundu prehra len malicko cez 1280x720. Ale tento tv ma osobne az tak netrapi, skor ma zaujima Samsung D6100, ci bude schopny to prehrat priamo z usb pri fullhd a 50 snimkoch, aj ked oni tvrdia, ze podporuju do profilu 4.1 high (up to 4.1, co zjavne treba chapat tak, ze o 4.1 mozem snivat vzhladom na bitrate, ale ved necham sa prekvapit) pri h.264 v mkv kontajneri, ale bitrate az do 25 mbit/s,Navyse je v manuale poznamka, ze podporuje usb hdd, ale nie usb hdd raid pole, co isto coskoro zistim, az pridu disky konecne, bo tu mam icy box pre dva disky s moznostou RAID 0 a RAID1 alebo ako JBOD.

Coraz castejsie mam dojem, ze si tu niekto robi srandu.

Takze mam taky dojem, ze bez dakej krabice pod telkou sa clovek este nezaobide a ked pride ten cas, tak marketing opat raz pohladi na dusi a da to jasne najavo.

 

Kazdopadne dakujem MadCatX za snahu pomoct a koniec koncov ma to aj posunulo spravnym smerom, takze pomoc to bola isto. ;)