Dotaz: Jak na X window na externim monitoru a notebooku.

[anon123]

Problem mam v tom, ze mi Xka bezi na LCD notebooku, ale nejdou mi na externim monitoru. Externi monitor vzdy zhasne pri najezdu do Xek. Kdyz prepnu do tty1-6 tak externi monitor naskoci a jedou oba.

Potrebuju aby externi monitor bezel v Xkach a aby byl stejny jako u notebooku. Ten notebookovy nepouzivam.

Muzete napsat nejaky rychle funkcni navod pro Debian testing?

Odpovědi

[Aleš Kapica]

Záleží na ovladačích grafické karty. Třeba ovladače od ATI proto podporu mají. U nativních jsem měl buď jeden nebo druhý monitor, ale po pravdě moc jsem si s tím nehrál, protože display mého notebooku má lepší zobrazovací schopnosti než můj LCD monitor doma.

[anon123]

Pise mi to ze ma

ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x

Je to starsi notebook, ale pod win to chodilo.

Trosku jsem to studoval, ale moc tomu jeste nehovim. Musim pouzit Xineramu nebo ne?

Nevite o nejakem dobrem navodu? Nebo nad tim zase budu muset stravit vecnost

[Aleš Kapica]

Stáhni si ovladače od ATI - a neotravuj, chtělo by se dodat. Ale ne, zkus se tady podívat po diskuzích, určitě najdeš nějakou kde se to řešilo. Při instalaci by se ti měl zkompilovat modul pro aktuální spuštěné linuxové jádro. Tzn. když použiješ jiné, musíš znova ten modul zkompilovat. Jmenuje se fglrx. A dále už si to najdi sám.

[anon123]

Hmm, to je pravda. Ani me to nenapadlo tam naladovat ovladace primo od Ati. Je to jen starsi notebook, tak jsem se tim nechtel otravavoval. Ale asi budu muset.

[pzad]

M3 je tak stary cip, ze fglrx drivery ho nepodporuju. Je to este rage (nie je to ani len radeon), takze tato rada je tak na dve veci.

[anon123]

Jeste bych se mozna zeptal, jestli je lepsi stahnout ovladace od ATI instalaci provest pres jejich installer nebo pouzit balicky, ktere jsou k dispozici pro debian?

Diky za odpoved

[pzad]

Na tu kartu su drivery od ATI nanic - ani to nemusite tahat.

[anon123]

Takze drivery mi to nespravy, chapu

Mohl by me nekdo navest jakym zpusobem zkusit nastavit xorg.conf aby mi Xka nabehli i na tom externim monitoru?

[Aleš Kapica]

Počkáš s tím do zítra? Dnes na hledání takových věcí vážně nemám čas, krom toho mám doma vytištěnou nějakou věc na toto téma. Zkus hledat něco jako xserver a multihead

[pzad]

Myslim si, ze ta karta nezvlada dva monitory nezavisle. Podla mna to pojde len ako clone (to co je na notebooku je aj na externom lcd).

Skuste do xorg.conf dodat nieco taketo:
Option "Display" "Mirror"

mozno nieco pomoze aj
man r128

[anon123]

Jak jsem uvedl nahore. Karta to zvlada ve Win bez broblemu. Testoval jsem to prave kvuli tomu

V jake section bych mel toto napsat? Graficka karta nebo monitor?

[anon123]

Kdyz by byla nejaka pomoc, kdykoliv, tak bych byl moc rad.

[anon123]

Vyzkousel jsem toto http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ a nic.

[anon123]

Tak se tam pomalu blizim. Nasleduji vypis z xorg.conf Zobrazi Xka na externim monitoru, ale je to prodlouzeni toho hlavniho monitoru. Neni to zatim clone.

# xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
	FontPath	"unix/:7100"			# local font server
	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"dbe"
	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"dri"
	Load	"evdev"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"record"
	Load	"type1"
	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"keyboard"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc101"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)"
	Driver		"ati"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
#	Option		"MergedFB" "true"
#	Option		"MetaMode" "1024x768-1024x768  1024x768-1024x768" 
#	Option		"MergeDPI" "100 100"
	Screen		0
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)"
	Driver		"ati"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Screen		1
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Notebook Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	28-49
	VertRefresh	43-72
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"External Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	28-83
	VertRefresh	43-72
EndSection



Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)"
	Monitor		"Notebook Monitor"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"External Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)"
	Monitor		"External Monitor"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		0 "Default Screen"
	Screen		1 "External Screen" RightOf "Default Screen"
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
	Option		"Xinerama" "on"
	Option		"Clone" "on"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode	0666
EndSection 

[anon123]

A tady je clone mode. Stacilo upravit nasleduji radku

Screen		1 "External Screen" RightOf "Default Screen" 

A pak cely konfigurak v clone modu. Jestli mate nejaka zlepseni, sem s nima.

# xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
	FontPath	"unix/:7100"			# local font server
	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"dbe"
	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"dri"
	Load	"evdev"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"record"
	Load	"type1"
	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"keyboard"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc101"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)"
	Driver		"ati"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
#	Option		"MergedFB" "true"
#	Option		"MetaMode" "1024x768-1024x768  1024x768-1024x768" 
#	Option		"MergeDPI" "100 100"
	Screen		0
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)"
	Driver		"ati"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Screen		1
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Notebook Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	28-49
	VertRefresh	43-72
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"External Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	28-83
	VertRefresh	43-72
EndSection



Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)"
	Monitor		"Notebook Monitor"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"External Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)"
	Monitor		"External Monitor"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		0 "Default Screen"
	Screen		1 "External Screen"
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
	Option		"Xinerama" "on"
	Option		"Clone" "on"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode	0666
EndSection 

[anon123]

Tak tady mam akorad jeden problem. Na tom externim monitoru je jen obraz toho hlavniho monitoru. Nevim kurzor mysi.

[anon123]

Melo byt nevidim kursor mysi.

[anon123]

Tak jsem tu zpet.

Nasledujici konfigurak mi dava TwinView, tedy dva monitory nezavisle na sobe

Problem je, ze nevim, jak mezi nimi prepinat. Vedel by nekdo nejakou klavesovou zkratku?

Cerpal jsem z http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart2.shtml#forcecrt2type

# xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

# Configuration for notebook and external LCD monitor.
# Each monitor has its own screen.
# Problem is to switch between those screens (not resolved).


Section "Files"
	FontPath	"unix/:7100"			# local font server
	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"dbe"
	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"dri"
	Load	"evdev"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"record"
	Load	"type1"
	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"keyboard"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc101"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/psaux"
	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)"
	Driver		"ati"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Option		"MetaMode" "1024x768-1024x768  1024x768-1024x768"	#important for dual mode
	Option		"MonitorLayout" "CRT,LFP"
	Screen		0
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)"
	Driver		"ati"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Option		"MetaMode" "1280x1024 1280x1024  1280x1024-1280x1024"	#important for dual mode
	Option		"MonitorLayout" "CRT,LFP"
	Screen		1
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Default Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	28-49
	VertRefresh	43-72
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"External Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	HorizSync	30-83
	VertRefresh	56-76
EndSection



Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)"
	Monitor		"Default Monitor"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"External Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)"
	Monitor		"External Monitor"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		0 "Default Screen"
	Screen		1 "External Screen"
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
#	Option		"Xinerama" "off"
#	Option		"Clone" "on"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode	0666
EndSection 

[petr_p]

Focus lze menit prejetim ukazatele na levy/preavy okraj. X clienta muzete poslat na danou obrazovku urcenim cisla obrazovky (to jsou ty cisla za volbou screen) :CISLO_SERVERU.CISLO_OBRAZOVKY. Napr. xterm -display :0.1

[kml]

Hi,

sorry, but I don't speak Czech.

Is this configuration really working for you?

With my Xorg I still get the following error:

(EE) ATI: XF86Config Device sections "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Primary)" and "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (Secondary)" may not be assigned to the same adapter. (EE) No devices detected.

And also the MetaMode Option seems not to work:

"(WW) ATI(0): Option "MetaMode" is not used"