Dotaz: Vypne monitor pri starte startx

[kupakx]

Davnejsie som mal CRT a kupil som si LCD (HP 1740 17") a problem nastal s Mandrakom 10.1. Pri boote mi LCD vypisal Out of Range. Tak som zmenil cez drakxconf udaje o frekveniach monitoru a fachalo to...

Avsak ak som stiahol Live CD Whaxu (logo ma Whax aj ine veci, www.iwhax.net) tak po nabootovani a prihlaseni ako root som spustil samozrejme startx. No mechanika citala z CD nadalej, ale monitor sa vypol (nie Out of Range ale vypol,pohotovostny rezim,orandzova ledka). Tak som sa s ty mhral a pozeral na net co to moze byt (napr.http://iwhax.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=160&forum=4#forumpost613 ma ten isty problem ako ja a radia mu nahradit povodny subor v /etc/X11/xorg.conf , funkcnym nejakym s ineho linuxu. Tak som skopiroval (bol chraneny,takze najprv ako text a ulozil do formatu conf) xorg.conf (resp. XF86Config premenoval na xorg.conf) z MDK , z Danixu,Slaxu ale aj tak to neslo.

Skusal som mnoho prikazov, ale nic. Pomocou xorgconfig som nakonfiguroval udaje (cca presne) a po zadani startx mi len zobrazilo sedu obrazovku a kurzor v tvare X (ale CD necitalo), cize zase nic.

Ani rucne dopisovanie do xorg.conf velmi nepomohlo, pod kolonku Monitor som nastavil spravne udaje HorizSync a VertRefresh ale zase nic ... skusal som aj to Modeline skusal som Modeline "1024x768" 81.54 1024 1064 1168 1352 768 768 770 804 Modeline "1024x768" 60.80 1024 1056 1128 1272 768 768 770 796 Modeline "1024x768" 85.52 1024 1056 1376 1408 768 782 792 807 ale zase neuspech (vobec neviem ci som ho dobre zadal,a ani neviem ci som ho dobre vygeneroval na nete)

Skusal som aj cudzie xorg.conf ale zase nic.

Prosim preto o radu ,alebo presny xorg.conf na nejaky 17" LCD (karta nvidia FX5200)... alebo aku chmaru tam mam nastavit Pokial mate rychly net, tak si mozte stiahnut (www.iwhax.net verzia 20072005) a skusit to na vasom LCD/CRT... dakujem

btw (uz som hladal na nete, napr. cital aj na abclinuxu System X Wind (3casti))

Odpovědi

[unchallenger]

po zadani startx mi len zobrazilo sedu obrazovku a kurzor v tvare X (ale CD necitalo)

Jinými slovy, X normálně fungovala. Jen se ti nespustil žádný windowmanager nebo desktopové prostředí. Takhle vypadají holá X, seznamte se, prosím ;-) Když si dopíšeš start windowmanageru do .xinitrc, tak se spustí. Nebo se má nějaký spouštět implicitně?

[kupakx]

nerozumiem...co kde mam dopisat?

[finn]

Vytvoř si soubor .xinitrc ve svém domovském adresáři (~/) a zapiš do něj vše potřebné pro spuštění nějakého správce oken. Můj .xinitrc vypadá asi takhle (zkrácená verze):

#!/bin/bash

if [ -n "$WINMANAGER" ]; then
  WINMANAGER=`type -p $WINMANAGER`
fi

if [ -z "$WINMANAGER" ]; then
  if [ -x /usr/bin/startfluxbox ]; then
    WINMANAGER=/usr/bin/startfluxbox
  elif [ -x /usr/bin/blackbox ]; then
    WINMANAGER=/usr/bin/blackbox
  elif [ -x /usr/kde/3.2/bin/startkde ]; then
    WINMANAGER=/usr/kde/3.2/bin/startkde
  elif [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/twm ]; then
    WINMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/twm
  fi
fi

if [ -z "$WINMANAGER" ]; then
  xmessage -timeout 10 -default okay -center -file - <<-EOF
        Chyba: neni nainstalovan zadny znamy spravce oken!
        Bye...
        EOF
  echo "Chyba: neni nainstalovan zadny znamy spravce oken!"
  echo "Bye..."
  exit 1
fi

gkrellm2 -w &

# nastavení akcelerace myši na 2 a prahu citlivosti na 3 (standardnì 2/4)
xset m 2 3

exec $WINMANAGER
exit 0

[unchallenger]

Pro začátak by tam mohlo stačit

exec můj_oblíbený_windowmanager

[kupakx]

skusim...ale neslubujem ze to spravim.. a btw. na co to sluzi?

[Rastislav Lentner]

Spustíš tým windows manager, čo ti umozňí pracovať ďale. Mať možno jednoduché a prehľadné menu. Začni stúdium manuálov.

[Dalibor Smolík]

Je dobré také si ověřit, zda byl zvolen správný ovladač grafická karta. (Problém jsem měl po koupi LCD monitoru po zvolení ovladače "vesa", než jsem zvolil ovladač správný). Po zadání příkazu lspci -v si najděte odstavec týkající se grafické karty a její název by měl být v hranatých závorkách.

[kupakx]

Tak moj xorg.conf , pri ktorom sa mi spusti ta seda obrazovka s kurozorm X:

# File generated by xorgconfig.

#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person 

obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, 

including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the 

Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright 

notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED 

"AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR 

A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
# The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# 

WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS 

IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation shall
# not be used in advertising or 

otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from
# The X.Org Foundation.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5x) man page for details about the 

format of 
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# 

**********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which 

dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This 

loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions 

module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit 

xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
Load "type1"
# Load 

"speedo"
Load "freetype"
# Load "xtt"

# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
# This loads the DRI 

module
# Load "dri"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This 

allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# 

The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no 

need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated 

together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# 



FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath 

"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"


FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
FontPath 

"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"

# The module search path. The default path is 

shown here.

# ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# 

**********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# 

**********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the 

spot where a signal is 
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core 

dump to aid in debugging

# Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the Crtl Alt Fn VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 

through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

# Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Uncomment this to disable the 

Crtl> Alt> BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

# Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable 

the Crtl Alt KP_+ / KP_- mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.

# Option "Dont Zoom"

# 

Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but 

it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

# Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment 

this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. 

# Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically 

modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings. 

# Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a 

non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

# Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# 

**********************************************************************
# Input devices
# 

**********************************************************************

# 

**********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# 

**********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver 

"kbd"

# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not 

Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which 

keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# Option "LeftAlt" "Meta"
# Option 

"RightAlt" "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For 

example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural 

keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a 

german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" 

"nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" 

"ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
# Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
# 

Option "XkbLayout" "us"
# Option "XkbVariant" ""
# Option "XkbOptions" ""

# Option "XkbDisable"

Option "XkbRules" 

"xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection


# 

**********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# 

**********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

Identifier 

"Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "Auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"

# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 

mouse.

# Option "Resolution" "256"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

# 

Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be 

omitted.

# Option "BaudRate" "9600"
# Option "SampleRate" "150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# 

Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"

# 

ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection


# 

**********************************************************************
# Other input device sections 
# this is optional and is required 

only if you
# are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer
# to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the 

options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice" 
# Identifier "Mouse2"
# 

Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "MouseMan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section 

"InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball"
# Driver "magellan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section 

"InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball2"
# Driver "spaceorb"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section 

"InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen0"
# Driver "microtouch"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option 

"MinX" "1412"
# Option "MaxX" "15184"
# Option "MinY" "15372"
# Option "MaxY" 

"1230"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option 

"SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen1"
# Driver "elo2300"
# Option "Device" 

"/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "231"
# Option "MaxX" "3868"
# Option "MinY" "3858"
# 

Option "MaxY" "272"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option 

"ButtonThreshold" "17"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# 

**********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# 

**********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section 

"Monitor"

Identifier "HP"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete 

values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL 

FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0

# HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
# HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # 

multiple fixed sync frequencies
# HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units 

are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE 

VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 50-70

EndSection


# 

**********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# 

**********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard 

VGA Device:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Standard VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"

# The chipset line is 

optional in most cases. It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

# Chipset 

"generic"

# The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the 

specified driver
# module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the 

information in this section.

Driver "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is 

intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
# devices a line 

like the following could be used. This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

# 

BusID "PCI:0:10:0"

# VideoRam 256

# Clocks 25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xorgconfig:

Section 

"Device"
Identifier "** NVIDIA (generic) [nv]"
Driver "nv"
#VideoRam 65536
# Insert Clocks lines 

here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# 

**********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# 

the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the 

"-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "** NVIDIA (generic) [nv]"
Monitor 

"HP"
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"


ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" 

"640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"


ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout 

sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. 

Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line 

with the
# "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first 

Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
Identifier "Simple Layout"

# Each 

Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens. The four names after
# primary 

screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# 

right of screen 1.

Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to 

specify the way the device is to be
# used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

InputDevice 

"Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

# Section "DRI"
# Mode 0666
# EndSection

No skusal som vytvorit subor .xinitrc v hlavnom adresari tj. / (tam kde su tie adresare /etc,/mnt/ ...) a napisal som don "exec kde" (bez uvodzoviek) a po zadani startx zase to iste, cize nenabehlo KDE. Po zadani gui myslim ze sa mi vypol display.

Chcel som tam napisat aj aj ten skript co tu niekto napisal, ale vo Wine som ho dal do Notepadu a v Line mi to zblblo (cudne znaky).

Tak co mi este odporucate, elbo uz fakt neviem...

(Skuste si to distro stiahnut a uvidite)

btw. mam Dokumentacny projekt tretie vydanie aj prirucku na Mandrake (to su najobsiahlejsie)...ale to ten projekt je sice z r.2003 ale v podstate je stary,nie su tam WLAN,X.org a pod...

[Robert Krátký]

Jestli správně čtu, tak už v první reakci na tvůj původní dotaz jsi se dozvěděl, že problém s X nemáš. Je pouze potřeba spustit nějakého správce oken (pokud už nemáš spuštěného např. twm, který jen neumíš ovládat). Proč sem tedy kopíruješ svůj (příšerně dlouhý) konfigurák X?

[kupakx]

zhrniem to, bol som teraz skusit tie prikazy. Ak vytvorim v "/" (ma sa to pisat ~/ ,pricom ta vlna symoblizuje "nič" ?) subor .xinitrc (v mc mi to zobrazuje *.xinitrc) a zapisem do neho exec startkde alebo len startkde ,tak aj tak po zadani startx mi zobrazi len tu sedu obrazovku,s kurzorom X a viac NIČ (ani nereaguje na Alt+F1(az F6,a ani na prikazy). Vytvoric som aj ten .xinitrc v adresari /etc/X11/xinit ,hoci tam uz nejaky bol (ale zobrazoval sa mi @xinitrc alebo nejak tak).

Cize ci s .xinitomrc alebo bez neho stale to iste (seda obraz.). Ale vzdy (bez ohladu na aky je xorg.conf) mi vypne obrazovku pri prikaze "gui" a CD dalej bootuje...no lenze mne je to zbytocne...

Podotykam, raz uz som to spustil, no nemam ponatia co som pomenil.

Ak spustim prikaz startkde (s tym xorg.confom ,kedy mi nabehne pri startx seda obrazovka) tak mi vypise Errory (aj s .xinitrc aj bez neho) Foto (bohuzial nekvalitne) je na kupakx.wz.cz

uz fakt neviem co robit, ci sa na to nevykaslat (ale dost dlho som to sosal a taky neuspech) :-/

[unchallenger]

~ je tvůj domovský adreář (ten zbytek z toho pak už plyne). Asi by to chtělo přečíst nějaý úvod do Linuxu (Unixu)...

[###]

Foto (bohuzial nekvalitne) je na kupakx.wz.cz

Mozna by to chtelo se trochu nad tim zamyslet, co ti ta chyba rika.

1. Nechapu proc se pokousis poustet KDE pod rootem.

2. Ti to rika, ze startkde se nemuze pripojit na X server. Protoze jej nemas pusteny. Pokud mas v ~/.xinitrc spravne napsany prikaz pro spusteni KDE, tak bys to mel spoustet pouze prikazem startx, ktery si pak precte v .xinitrc co se dal ma pustit ... predpokladam, ze KDE mas nainstalovany

[#Tom]

Nemá cenu spouštět startkde z konzoly, protože je potřeba mít spuštěná Xka. Vezměte Xka s šedým pozadím (= funkčním displejem) a zkuste toto:

xinit $(which startkde)

Místo $(which startkde) lze napsat plnou cestu k programu startkde, ale takto je to obvykle pohodlnější.

Postupovat se dá i jinak:

X :0 &

Nastartují se X, pozadí bude bíločerné ("šedé") s kurzorem X. Přepněte se zpět do konzole (Control+Alt+F1). Kvůli & bude X spuštěn v pozadí, nicméně příkazový řádek s kurzorem na váš koukat asi nebude, protože X zaplácnou obrazovku svými užitečnými průpovídkami. Chcete-li vidět příkazový řádek jako jindy, stiskněte Enter a potom pokračujte těmito příkady:

export DISPLAY=:0
startkde

Přepněte se zpět do X (Alt+F7), pokud se to neudělá samo.

Pro jednoduchost lze vytvořit soubor ~/.xinitrc a do něj napsat tohle, nebo i něco složitějšího, jak je uvedeno nahoře.

#!/bin/bash
startkde

Je to dobré k tomu, aby se nemuselo dokola psát xinit $(which startkde), ale stačilo napsat jen startx či xinit. Více v manuálových stránkách:

man xinit
man startx

P.S.: Znak vlnovky ~ je symbol pro domovský adresář. Příkazový řádek (bash) jej nahrazuje obsahem proměnné prostředí $HOME. Tedy ~/.xinitrc je totéž, jako $HOME/.xinitrc. Pro správce je to zpravidla /root/.xinitrc. Vyzkoušet si to můžete na programu echo:

echo ~
echo $HOME
echo ~/.xinitrc

Takto se lze odkázat i na domovský adresář jiného uživatele:

echo ~root

[kupakx]

Dakujem velmi pekne za navod, xinit $(which startkde) mi nejde, zase ta seda obrazovka a nereaguje ani na prikaz startkde (v bashi mi v poslednom riadku vypise nieco ako "Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list" )

tak som skusil (po reboote) X :0 & a nastartovala sa cierna obrazovka s kurzorom X (nie seda) (uz si nepamätam ci tam bola tiez ta hlaska Could not...) tak som zadal export DISPLAX=:0 a startkde a div sa svete, vsetko sa v pohode rozbehlo... cize DAKUJEM

a ak by som chcel to distro nainstalovat na HDD tak by mi stacilo vytvorit v ~/.xinitrc a don napisat #!/bin/bash startkde ?

[kupakx]

prosim poradte....