Dotaz: Notebook pravidelne zatuhava

[Pavel]

Zdravim, na notebook s chipsetem ATi Radeon Express 200M jsem instaloval Opensuse 10.3. System mi ted pravidelne na par vterin zatuhava. Dochazi k tomu predevsim pri praci s diskem, kdyz si necham vypsat adresar, nebo mam spustenych vic aplikaci a jadro musi swapovat. Potom se par vterin vubec neda pracovat, kurzor mysi jezdi, ale to je to jedine, zbytek aplikaci nereaguje. Po 2-5 vterinach se to zase rozjede, ale protoze k tomu dochazi priblizne kazdou pul minutu (jak jsem psal vyse, zalezi spis na praci s diskem), je to neprijemne.

Behem techto nucenych pauz disk vydava zvlastni zvuky - nejde o klapani jako pri bezne praci, je to nemenny ton, pripomina to seekovani starych disku, uz par let jsem to neslysel. Vyzkousel jsem i nove jadro (2.6.24-rc5), nic se nezmenilo. V logu neni nic zvlastniho. Prikladam par vypisu.

hdparm -I /dev/sda

/dev/sda:

ATA device, with non-removable media
        Model Number:       ST960822A
        Serial Number:      3LF2F798
        Firmware Revision:  3.02
Standards:
        Used: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2
        Supported: 6 5 4
Configuration:
        Logical         max     current
        cylinders       16383   17475
        heads           16      15
        sectors/track   63      63
        --
        CHS current addressable sectors:   16513875
        LBA    user addressable sectors:  117210240
        LBA48  user addressable sectors:  117210240
        device size with M = 1024*1024:       57231 MBytes
        device size with M = 1000*1000:       60011 MBytes (60 GB)
Capabilities:
        LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
        Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, no device specific minimum
        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16  Current = 16
        Advanced power management level: unknown setting (0x8080)
        Recommended acoustic management value: 254, current value: 0
        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
             Cycle time: no flow control=240ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
        Enabled Supported:
           *    SMART feature set
                Security Mode feature set
           *    Power Management feature set
           *    Write cache
           *    Look-ahead
           *    WRITE_BUFFER command
           *    READ_BUFFER command
           *    DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
           *    Advanced Power Management feature set
                SET_MAX security extension
           *    48-bit Address feature set
                Device Configuration Overlay feature set
           *    Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
           *    FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
           *    SMART error logging
           *    SMART self-test
Security:
        Master password revision code = 65534
                supported
        not     enabled
        not     locked
                frozen
        not     expired: security count
        not     supported: enhanced erase
HW reset results:
        CBLID- above Vih
        Device num = 0 determined by CSEL
Checksum: correct

A takhle vypada vypis, pokud hdparm pusim behem podivne prace disku.

hdparm -I /dev/sda

/dev/sda:

ATA device, with non-removable media
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        Serial Number:      @��BL���з�
        Firmware Revision:  �������
        Media Manufacturer: 5ȷ�<X���
Standards:
        Likely used: 1
Configuration:
        track offset option
        Logical         max     current
        cylinders       47087   60496
        heads           47093   47089
        sectors/track   17056   60464
        --
        bytes/track: 60360      bytes/sector: 47089
        CHS current addressable sectors: 3086024704
        device size with M = 1024*1024:     1506848 MBytes
        device size with M = 1000*1000:     1580044 MBytes (1580 GB)
Capabilities:
        IORDY not likely
        Buffer type: ec28: dual port, multi-sector with read caching ability
        Buffer size: 23544.5kB  bytes avail on r/w long: 60448
        Cannot perform double-word IO
        R/W multiple sector transfer: not supported
        DMA: not supported
        PIO: unknown

Uz opravdu nevim, jak dal. Mel bych se zamerit na nejakou specifickou oblast logu?

Odpovědi

[alium]

co je to presne za notebook ?

[Pavel]

HP nx6125

[sopta]

Ahoj, a co Ti řekne smartctl? Nejsou tam vadný bloky a nebo UDMA errory?

Sopťa

[Pavel]

Vcera jsem preinstaloval z Opensuse 10.2 na 10.3. Na 10.2 notebook fungoval normalne, zadne problemy s diskem nebyly. Ty se objevily opravdu az po instalaci 10.3. Ale vypis prikladam, vubec mu nerozumim.

smartctl -a /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Momentus 5400.2 series
Device Model:     ST960822A
Serial Number:    3LF2F798
Firmware Version: 3.02
User Capacity:    60 011 642 880 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2
Local Time is:    Sun Dec 16 12:00:56 2007 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)	Offline data collection activity
					was completed without error.
					Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (  24)	The self-test routine was aborted by
					the host.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection: 		 ( 426) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
					Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
					Suspend Offline collection upon new
					command.
					Offline surface scan supported.
					Self-test supported.
					No Conveyance Self-test supported.
					Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
					power-saving mode.
					Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
					No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time: 	 (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (  84) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   059   054   034    Pre-fail  Always       -       62845648
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   096   095   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   097   097   020    Old_age   Always       -       3784
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       38
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   080   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       110753002
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   097   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       2913
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   034    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   098   098   020    Old_age   Always       -       2264
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       2265
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   064   064   000    Old_age   Always       -       72252
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   026   051   000    Old_age   Always       -       26 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/11)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   059   054   000    Old_age   Always       -       62845648
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 168 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
	CR = Command Register [HEX]
	FR = Features Register [HEX]
	SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
	SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
	CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
	CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
	DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
	DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
	ER = Error register [HEX]
	ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 168 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1569 hours (65 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 cf 2a 96 e4  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x04962acf = 76950223

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 cf 2a 96 e4 00      00:12:47.542  READ DMA
  ca 00 10 67 21 7e e3 00      00:13:00.290  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 38 0f bc 08 e2 00      00:13:00.290  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 37 00 60 e0 00      00:13:00.290  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 30 8f ac 5f e0 00      00:13:00.290  WRITE DMA

Error 167 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1569 hours (65 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 cf 2a 96 e4  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x04962acf = 76950223

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 cf 2a 96 e4 00      00:12:47.542  READ DMA
  ca 00 08 df 94 93 e4 00      00:12:47.541  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 d7 94 93 e4 00      00:12:47.541  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 47 21 7e e3 00      00:12:47.541  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 e7 48 8d e1 00      00:12:47.539  WRITE DMA

Error 166 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1569 hours (65 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 cf 2a 96 e4  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x04962acf = 76950223

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 cf 2a 96 e4 00      00:12:47.542  READ DMA
  ca 00 08 cf 78 95 e4 00      00:12:47.541  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 47 00 5e e0 00      00:12:47.541  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 38 d7 bb 08 e2 00      00:12:47.541  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 a7 b7 0d e0 00      00:12:47.539  WRITE DMA

Error 165 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1569 hours (65 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 cf 2a 96 e4  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x04962acf = 76950223

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 cf 2a 96 e4 00      00:12:41.014  READ DMA
  ca 00 08 97 a6 35 e2 00      00:12:40.989  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 17 a6 56 e1 00      00:12:40.972  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 5f a0 3f e1 00      00:12:40.972  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 47 a1 59 e0 00      00:12:40.972  WRITE DMA

Error 164 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1569 hours (65 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 cf 2a 96 e4  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x04962acf = 76950223

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 cf 2a 96 e4 00      00:12:34.683  READ DMA
  ca 00 08 3f 00 5e e0 00      00:12:34.683  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 97 3e 17 e0 00      00:12:34.683  WRITE DMA
  ca 00 08 67 32 11 e0 00      00:12:34.683  WRITE DMA
  c8 00 01 00 00 00 e0 00      00:12:34.668  READ DMA

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Aborted by host               80%      1202         -
# 2  Short offline       Aborted by host               90%      1088         -
# 3  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1088         -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1087         -
# 5  Short offline       Aborted by host               90%       402         -
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%         0         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

[frEon]

rekl bych, ze jeste chvili a ten disk potka mou zakladovku v kremikovem nebi... zazalohoval bych si byt tebou data. toto: Raw_Read_Error_Rate, Seek_Error_Rate, Hardware_ECC_Recovered, a hlavne Reallocated_Sector_Ct nevypada vybec zrdave.

[Pavel]

No dobre, ja se tomu nebranim. Akorat se mi nezda, ze se to chovani projevilo zrovna po instalaci nove verze distribuce. Takze si myslite, ze je to HW problem v disku a mam ho reklamovat? Je to dobrej napad, nebo blbej napad? Nebo jakej je to teda napad?

[zelial]

mám ten samý ntb. Raw_Read_Error_Rate a Hardware_ECC_Recovered u mě mají 134 miliónů! nabíhaji neustále, při běžném provozu. zvláštní je, že jen v linuxu, ve win to nepřibývá. takže tomu nepřikládám žádnou váhu.

Hardware_ECC_Recovered už vážnější je. já jsem na sedmi. tipuju si, že jsem si ty sektory pokazil sám, když jsem notebook za chodu přenášel/převážel. mám tam tech 7 realokovaných už asi rok a nové nepřibývají => závada se nešíří. doporučuju to sledovat, a pokud by se ten čítač zvetšoval, tak začít panikařit.

a zbytek toho smartu nechápu. hlásí nějakých 168 chyb, ale jak jsou vážné posoudit neumím. a dál jsou zajímavé ty nedokončené smart testy. pouštěl jsi je sám ručně? nebo to dělá opensuse? přerušoval jsi je?

[Pavel]

Sam jsem zadne testy Smartem nepoustel, takze to je asi prace Opensuse. Stejne tak jsem testy neprerusoval, naopak nevylucuji, ze preruseni je dusledek vypnuti nebo restartu pocitace.

[zelial]

jo, restart by je přerušil. tak je zkus spustit ručně, co to udělá: "smartctl -t short /dev/sda". je to hotové za minutu/dvě a výsledky jsou v "smartclt -a /dev/sda".

ps: zálohuješ aspoň 2x za minutu, že jo?

[Pavel]

Spustil jsem kratkej i dlouhej test a oba dopadly Completed without error.

[zelial]

tak tím jsem vyčerpal všechny nápady. vykašlal bych se na opensuse10.3, když to dělá jen v něm. zálohuj a hlídej si realokované sektory.

[partizan]

diskom to asi nebude a tie udaje zo smartctl netreba brat aaz tak vazne 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 113 100 006 Pre-fail Always 212873926 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always 27 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 060 060 030 Pre-fail Always 1059342 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always 25 190 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 058 057 045 Old_age Always 722993194 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 085 083 000 Old_age Always 197599414

Device Model: ST3160815A - je to novy saegate a ako vidno ma nabehanych sotva 25 hodin a error raty su cez miliony...

zato moj druhy disk Device Model: WDC WD400BB-00CAA1 - western digital ma nabehanych 15634 hodin prevadzky Start_Stop_Count 6300, a vsetky chybove hodnoty ma doteraz na 0... (jedine miesto kde je pocut/citit rozdiel je vo vybehanych loziskach :D )

[mseed]

Prehled parametru - http://fastlinux.eu/index.php?page=linux023

[Aleš Kapica]

Mám stejný notes a občas se mi to stává taky. Dělává to grafická karta, resp. její 3D ovladač..

[zelial]

ouch, ten druhý výpis z hdparm vypadá hrozivě. co na ten disk říká "smartctl -a /dev/sda"?

ps: zálohu máš?